Talk:Destructive cult
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- Destructive cult → List of purported cults - Delete redirect. Title is inherently POV. Just a few days ago we completed the deletion of another POV redirect to this article (List of deadly cults) for same reasons. Thanks. --Zappaz 02:23, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- keep redirects aren't POV, pointing them to the correct article aids NPOV. SchmuckyTheCat 03:22, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- delete. This redirect needs to be deleted for the same reasons the redirect List of deadly cults was deleted. The list contains groups that are most definitively not destructive. Blatant POV. ≈ jossi ≈ 15:15, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
- A bunch of things link here. It can't be removed until those links are fixed to point to the destination. Noel (talk) 00:21, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Good idea, Ed! --Zappaz 04:17, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Reference
Can someone find a referece or attribution to the statement below? Thanks --ZappaZ 
01:42, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
- This definition is often extended to any new religious movement (NRM) which allegedly ruins its members lives or markedly limits their personal freedom: emotionally, mentally, spiritually or financially.
Given that no references or attribution to above statement were provided, I have deleted the text. --ZappaZ 21:09, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- Steven Hassan uses the term in such a way though the exact wording may differ. Andries 17:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Additions
I guess you're supposed to list sources when you add, but the two I added I think are fairly solid. Still just to be on the safe side BBC on the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God and CNN on Mansons.
[edit] Question Replacing Al-Qaeda with Takfir wal-Hijra
I took a class on Radical Islam, the paper of which I should really finish, and this group was mentioned as being seen as "a cult" in Egypt. It did not say that of Al-Qaeda or other jihadist. Could they/should they be added? Or added with some kind of note maybe?--T. Anthony 13:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
- Were they mentioned in some type of printed material that could be used as your source? I see no reason why there wouldn't be cults in Egypt, there always have been. Are they desctructive? -Willmcw 20:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
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- I'll have to look through my books from the Radical Islam class. They were mentioned in some Egyptian newspaper as "cultlike", but the statement is disputed as they are also an Islamist terrorist group like Al-Qaeda. One of their members shot a bunch of people in a pacifist mosque in Sudan. Their goals are much more solely religious than AQ. If I add them I'll mention the paper and put in a note, but I think they'd be closer to fitting than Al-Qaeda. Although that could be opening a flood gate for including Lord's Resistance Army and God's Army I guess.--T. Anthony 00:07, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Definition of Destructive cult
I disagree with the stated definition of the term. A quick net search reveals that most definitions do not include the limitation to cults which advocate or carry out murder.--Anchoress 04:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- True, it is also used by anti-cult activists for cults that they believe to ruin lives. It used to be in the article but somehow it got lost. Andries 17:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] List of doomsday scenarios
Could use votes to save this article, thanks MapleTree 22:20, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
