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Talk:Decapitated (band)

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Please, someone who knows the band remove the remaining advocacy and add content instead. Thanks. Colin Marquardt

OK, I cleaned it up a little. Md25 20:17, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Not needed?

I beg to differ that the word whilst being changed to while is "not needed." Apparently even in British English (where it occurs much more commonly than American English or Commonwealth English) the word is being phased out. People are using the word incorrectly who do actually use it (usually on the internet, for instance in fan fiction): it should take a form of "to be" in the phrase following it.

The word gives any written text—in whatever regional variety of English the reader or writer speaks—an air of pretentiousness and affectedness. Therefore it should not be used in any context except in direct relation to a British or Commonwealth-related subject. Telestylo 22:31, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

over 40 million google hits doesn't seem to make it being phased out. Also whilst and while are perfectly interchangeable - your "to be" is incorrect. "However, in Britain it is considered to be a more formal and literary word than its counterpart."[1]. Literary does not mean pretentious... So don't fix things that ain't broke Spearhead 22:42, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
  • "Formal" and "literary" are the positively-connotative forms of "pretentious" :) Two sides of the same coin. (And Wikipedia is neither literature nor "formal", for that matter.) -Silence 01:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
stress the positively vs the negative ringing of "pretentious". Spearhead 11:19, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Silence. Nice user name there, by the way. :)

I'm not going to revert this article again because obviously User:Spearhead is going to be pig-headed about a ridiculous word in a ridiculous context. Seriously, "literary" language about a metal band? And the Google hits that Spearhead "references" only prove my point: "whilst" is getting used much more often, especially on the internet, than it should, since in real life even speakers who actually use it don't use it that often, and as I understand it, even the Brits are starting to use it less. I feel that the logic I've put forth about revising the word out of this article is sound.

Have you actually looked at any of the results. Many of these are from ac.uk or gov.uk sites, meaning British academic or government sites. Granted, whilst is typically more British English than American - that does not mean it is wrong. Also WP states that in case articles are not particular to a certain location, such as America or Britain, the original author's style should be respected. Spearhead 11:19, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

And "my 'to be' " (as Spearhead says it) is not incorrect—I have degrees in Journalism and Linguistics and I know my stuff.

Maybe it's time to fix "your stuff". Even dictionaries give examples that don't have a form of to be beside it. Spearhead 11:19, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

This argument isn't worth my time. But may I suggest something? No offense, but Spearhead may want to consider revising his/her self-reported level of English proficiency, because "advanced level" is not how I'd describe the exchange he/she has been having here. -Telestylo 03:50, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

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