Talk:Davíð Oddsson
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Sorry for the bad quality -- I tried to be discreet whilst taking the photograph.... Maybe some Icelandic Wikipedian can contribute a better one. -- Kaihsu 17:52, 2004 Apr 27 (UTC)
- I changed it with much better one! :)--Avala 15:11, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
This article needs much more data. This man has basically run Iceland for the past 15 years. Surely there is something more to say? -- Palthrow
[edit] NPOV and Original research
User Hannes H. Gissurarson has done some great work in extending this article on David Oddson. However he has a namesake in Iceland, Hannes Hólmsteinn Gissurarson, if he indeed is not the same person, who is a vocal supporter, a personal friend, and a political advisor to the former pm., according to the icelandic media. This migh affect greatly the NPOV policy of the wikipedia standard,which would explain the bias in favour of David Oddson. He was a controversial figure to the icelanders, in many polls both the most popular and unpopular politician. A different view from one of the icelandic wikipedians maybe? To work it further into NPOV direction. There seems to be a lot of unverified and unverifiable statements in this article that need citations, or to be deleted. Finally, Mr. Gissurarson is a professor in political science in Iceland according to his homepage, so the article needs to be checked whether it includes his own original research and in such way violates Wikipedia standards.
ST.
- I have read the article and made some small changes. I think that it is reasonably balanced. It is clear that many parts of it are written by an admirer of Davíð but all the main criticisms of Davíð are discussed so I do not think there is need for a NPOV tag. As for the original research question, I find it a bit strange. Large parts of the article is written by Hannes Hólmsteinn who is well-known in Iceland as one of Davíð's biggest admirers and he is summarising events of 15 years but he does it in a factual way so I cannot see a problem. I would prefer another user to read the article over before the tags are removed but I would not want to see them here for a long time. Stefán Ingi 23:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with Stefán -- this article is fair and balanced -- and I am not an admirer of Davíð. Perhaps a little trimming of positive adjectives here and there would be in order, but that's it. -- Palthrow 14:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
HI, I read this article through and think that the Baugur controversy is conflated and should be forked to a special article. Regarding the bias - there should be some mention of other great controversies during his government that sparked his popularity/unpopularity such as Decode Genetics case, and the Hydro-power dams that are being build, and maybe also Icelands participation in the Iraq which was frowned upon by the general public. If nobody does it, I will give it a try. --Ununoktium 18:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don't really see the need to separate out the material on Baugur, Davíð was very much at the forefront of that, e.g. he made the bribery claims, was probably instrumental in having the media laws drawn up etc. Of course other people were involved and we could have a separate article on the subject but I don't think we need to take anything out of this one.
- I think the database for Decode should be mentioned, I forgot about it when I read the article the first time because every year that passes without Decode making any serious attempt to create it, it becomes less and less of an issue.
- Maybe we could mention the Kárahnjúkar project, but only very briefly, as I don't really think that Davíð was seen as the most important person in that.
- The support for the Iraq war is already mentioned in the article, maybe we could reword the criticism sentence a bit.
- But I am off to bed now. Stefán Ingi 00:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
- The article has now been read again (by some IP) and some changes made, mostly for the good, so I think it is safe to remove the tags. I reverted a couple of small changes, Perlan is best known for being a restaurant, there are sometimes markets there and other events and there is also a museum, I believe, but these are secondary. I wouldn't like the phrase David's foes anyway, but it was clearly out of place as not only baugur has been investing abroad. Stefán Ingi 08:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
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