Talk:Danny DeVito

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Danny's "View" appearance needs to be included for completeness..Anyone editing otherwise is censoring

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Is this Article a Stub?

How tall is Danny Devito anyway?207.157.121.50 23:41, 20 October 2005 (UTC)mightyafrowhitey

Contents 1 Schwarzenegger’s height 2 Really wierd vandalism 3 Picture Vandalism? 4 "Tufano" vandalism 5 King Kong 6 What's He Doing Now? 7 The View appearance 8 One odd line about Nicholson

[edit] Schwarzenegger’s height

It mentions that he is over 6 foot, but I’ve always heard that he is more to 5’10 and that he had always lied about his height.

Using the high-tech method of measuring their heights on the twins poster, I have determined Schwarzenegger is roughly 1.2 x DeVito's height. This means Schwarzenegger is 5'10 assuming DeVito is 4'10 as this article states. However, IMDB states Devito's height is 5', which makes 'over 6 foot' accurate. I don't think this constitutes a reliable source though. :s

Also, it says that devito is technically a dwarf, surely that should be midget, as a midget is a person below 5' in height, whereas a dwarf suffers from disproportion of head and limbs.

[edit] Really wierd vandalism

I am at a total loss to explain what's going on here. Megapixie 01:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

(moved from the article)

Re; Danny DeVito - Client of Dennis N Cline

Good name, in men and women, dear my Lord, is the immediate jewel of their souls.

Who steals from my purse steals trash. Tis something; Nothing.

'Twas mine, 'tis his, and makes slaves of thousands.

But he who filches from me my good name,

robs me of that which not enriches him

And makes me poor indeed.

Iago from Othello Act 3 Scene 3.

1.1 I inform you that the words of your client Danny DeVito have created a BBC conspiracy which has caused my children to lose a father for two consecutive years. 1.2 Your client is asked to issue a statement to the Police in Hertfordshire UK, namely WPC Taylor 253, and to the High Court, and to the BBC, to be read by His Honour Mr Justice Rose in 2006.

1.3 To recap, the allegations which Danny did or did not issue about myself and himself in 1998 have ruined the lives of myself and my children whereby the words complained of are being constantly repeated due to its connection with the BBC's soap, EastEnders.

1.4 Had Danny DeVito simply stated the allegations were false in 1998 I would not have had my children's lives ruined for the past two years. 1.5 I am of the view that your client can prevent my children's lives being further destroyed by stating the truth, which as I see it is thus; the Sunday People article was not only false, but caused me to contract a psychological injury that I cannot recover from until Danny DeVito puts the record straight.

1.6 You are required to talk to your client so as he can issue a statement to stop this ruination of the lives of my children caused by the Danny DeVito allegations in the UK press in 1998 and, so as my health is not further harmed by the consequences of these everlasting allegations regarding me and him.

1.7 I trust Danny DeVito will consider the power of his words when issued to the media and how they can effect children and their parents to such an extent as to make children emotionally and mentally scared for life.

1.8 My children are without a father because of what Danny DeVito said, or never said, and what he ought to have said, in 1998, regarding the defamatory news article which is now being peddled by staff at the BBC's EastEnders, and by others.

1.9 Danny DeVito needs to state his case regarding the allegations issued in the UK press regarding himself and myself, and that is to be done without further delay as unless he does so his further inaction will continue to have a very serious effect upon my children who have now lost a father over the words complained of and their effects upon my children.

Yours sincerely,

MS TUFANO

Contact Tufano@aol.com]]

[edit] Picture Vandalism?

Is the picture vandalism too, or is it just a case of a really bad image? I'm not sure whether to remove it or revert it... polkapunk

I'm not really clear on what's going on with the picture. The user concerned seems really insistent that the image is included. I would support removing it however. Does anyone have any idea what this vandalism is about ? Someone appears to have some kind of grudge. Megapixie 03:25, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I suspect vandalism as well - but regardless, I agree the picture needs to go. Devito is virtually unrecognizable in the shot. The size and darkness of the shot detracts from the visual presentation of the text of the article.

I'm going to remove the picture for now, barring any subsequent consensus that it should be kept. --Krich (talk) 18:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

It's not vandalism or a grudge, just happened to see a press scrum outside a restaurant in London so grabbed my picture phone to join in. Thought it may have been of interest to some, but obviously not. Sorry, i'll leave editing articles to the professionals in future.imdx80 10:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, imdx80. There has been a lot of vandalism of this article, seemingly from someone with some sort of grudge (perceived or otherwise) against DeVito. Speaking for myself, I suspected that the image might have been part of that. It was supposition only, and I probably should have left that out of my earlier comment.

As much as your contributions are appreciated (and I hope you continue to contribute to Wikipedia), I personally just didn't feel it was a represenative image of DeVito, and for other reasons I stated above, felt it should go. Since others had already made the same opinion known, I removed it.

There are few "professionals" here. I hope you stick around with us amateurs. --Krich (talk) 10:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Tufano" vandalism

Note that edits inserting supposed information about "Marc Tufano" are vandalism and should be reverted on sight. This has affected multiple articles (Robert De Niro, The Beatles, etc. etc.) -- Curps 18:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] King Kong

I think something should be added about Danny DeVito's role in Peter Jackson's remake of King Kong! He is suprisingly seen in the 2-disc DVD release of the film, in the post production diary "28 Weeks To Go- Peter Answers Your Questions" and appears near the end, observing a scene being processed for the film. --81.76.95.38 09:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

He had nothing to do with King Kong. VelvetKevorkian 00:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't more be said about his role in One Flew over the cockoo's nest wasn't that his big break and best performance?

[edit] What's He Doing Now?

Right now Danny DeVito is in South Surrey, British Columbia, shooting a movie with Matthew Broderick.

[edit] The View appearance

This is going to need to appear in the article some way. This is making headline news now. (→Netscott) 22:46, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it should be an article at all, nor should it appear on his main article. It's one little stint that is going to blow over in a day. If we traced every mistake of every Hollywood celebrity the archives would be full of worthless, random junk.

Someone has managed to type in a lot of disparaging things about Danny DeVito in the intro section of his page here. It's unnecessary. I can't seem to delete it.

I agree, and I also think that the title "drunken appearance on the view" Is definitely not NPOV, since, as I understand, he says he wasn't drunk at the time.

I have commented the section out - it really needs to be very tightly sourced. Can someone provide sources for the statements in the section. Megapixie 04:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

So, if someone denies something that's true, it's NPOV to report what's true? Please link me to that policy. BonniePrinceCharlie 12:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I have again commented out the section. The issue is purely with the lack of sources for the section. See WP:BLP policy. We need to have sources for this section before it can be reinstated. Megapixie 03:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Danny Devito isn't a good enough source? (note that this is a trivial issue that should not be in the entry, but your reasons are still awful) BonniePrinceCharlie 08:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting bit from George Clooney jokingly discussing how both he and DeVito were drunk the night prior to this appearance: [1] --AWF —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.54.154.151 (talk) 03:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC).

If the info doesn't go in, someone should probably remove the tag from the top. It seems like it will just invite people to add stuff about the interview. Natalie 21:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

If people want to include the material, they are going to have to add sources to the material. I will continue to remove it until sources are linked in the article. This is policy per WP:BLP. Megapixie 06:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, look, what he said during his own interview is like, not really in dispute. You need to stop being as unreasonable as the people who are trying to put this irrelevant stuff about a pathetic man in here. BonniePrinceCharlie 19:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

All I'm asking for is sources linked into the article. This is a clear part of our Biography policy. If someone wants to reinstate the material with suitable sources - great. Otherwise I will continue to remove the material. I can't see what is unreasonable about me removing unsourced negative material per policy, and explaining multiple times on the talk page (and edit summaries and user talk pages) why I am removing the material and what needs to be done to keep the material. Megapixie 22:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

You want someone to link to youtube, then? I thought that's against the rules, too. You seem to want to quash critical comments by a technicality (can't post a link to the video where he admits he was drunk, so, oh well, no source!). That's in bad faith. BonniePrinceCharlie 23:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

What I want to do is enforce WP:BLP. Finding good includable sources discussing the incident isn't hard. I'm not going to add the sources myself, since I think the material shouldn't be included in the first place because it's not encyclopedic. Megapixie 11:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I do believe the incident should be mentioned in this article. If this was his obituary, or if this was in Encyclopedia Britannica, then it would not merit mention. But this is a living encyclopedia, and this incident is clearly relevant to those viewing the article TODAY; over time, the appropriateness of this mention will fade. The incident is relevant and significant for many reasons: * It was an appearance on national television in which he behaved oddly and stated that he was drunk and which prompted an apology, * The episode received national attention on news, entertainment, and comedy programs, * He stated that he had been out late with an A-list celebrity who subsequently confirmed that they had been out late drinking together, * The remarks about the Lincoln Bedroom under President Clinton, which was a newsworthy item in its own right, * The disparaging remarks about the current president, politics aside, and * The politically incorrect use of the word "retard." As I stated, the relevance of this in the long run will fade, but for now, it should be mentioned in the article. I agree that it needs to be tactfully and objectively written, and definitely needs to have a source (easy, because there are many credible news agencies who reported on the incident). Mdeaton 17:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One odd line about Nicholson

One line about DeVito's Batman role jumped out at me, that Jack Nicholson had gained worldwide fame from his role as The Joker, and so encouraged Danny to take on The Penguin.

Jack had 30 years in movies before The Joker, with 9 Oscar nominations and 2 wins after Easy Rider, Chinatown, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The Shining, Reds, Terms of Endearment, Prizzi's Honor, etc. I suppose I'm nitpicking but it seems wrong. Any comments before I edit? --Bridgecross 15:02, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

You're not nitpicking - it's totally wrong. Jack was a HUGE star well before Batman. BonniePrinceCharlie 07:58, 9 December 2006 (UTC)