Talk:Daniel Dumile
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Throughout this article, "MF DOOM" is spelt as "MF Doom." His moniker is in capital letters, as mentioned in the song "All Caps." RealWingus 12:38, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Changed all instances of "MF Doom" and "Doom" to "MF DOOM" as this is how Dumile wants his name to be referenced. This was mentioned in his song "All Caps" --Threatis 01:28, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
This article is largely stolen from this page: http://www.starpulse.com/Music/MF_Doom/Biography/
- I think it may be that that site actually stole it from here, not the other way around aubrey 20:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Official Site
MF DOOM's myspace site is given here, but I think his official site is http://mfdoomsite.com/ However, this doesn't seem to be updated anymore, just wanted to throw that out there.
[edit] Nationality
If he was born in London wouldn't he be a British Hip Hop Artist? (in reference to American Hip Hop artist in Introduction) 12.25.217.139 18:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC) He raps in the states. He's American. Kinda like Slick Rick. -Rob
He's an American citizen (and has been one throughout the duration of his career), therefore I would catagorize him as an American artist. --(Mingus ah um 03:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC))
Mingus, do you know that he's an American citizen? As a long time follower of DOOM I believe he's not an American citizen. Aside from a Madvillain show in Toronto, Canada in 2004, he's not known to have ever performed outside of the U.S.A. A European tour in 2004 was cancelled and the reason cited on mfdoomsite.com was "passport/citizenship problems".
- Correct me if i've read something wrong, but never performing outside the US to me is more of an indication that he would have citizenship rather than the other way round W guice 13:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Music videos
Perhaps a Videos section at the bottom of the article is in order? My Favourite Ladies, for example. -WindFish 02:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- Well, that is his only video, I believe (besides ATHF, in which he didn't really appear), and both are pretty unremarkable. I don't think it's a necessity, but I wouldn't disagree to it. -The Hams 21:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- He has done many more videos, such as "Benzion Gum", "I Hear Voices", "?" and "Dead Bent". I think a video section would be good. -Gangstadane 17:15, 17 June 2006 (GMT)
- Definately need a video section. So many good videos from DOOM. 'Mr. Clean' is a personal favorite -eq
- Plus, he did a few videos when he was in KMD MrBlondNYC 15:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merging
Plagiarism aside, this article is Doom, not his instrumental album. I'm going to remove the merge notation.--TheGrza 05:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] small edit
5% are by definition unIslamic so I corrected that
By your interpretation... After all, strict Sunnis and Shites would say the very same thing about a Sufi--if not each other. I'm not going to bother looking into whatever you changed, but, if the 5%ers consider themselves to be a Muslim movement, they are a Muslim movement. That's just the way it works. --(Mingus ah um 03:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Pronounciation
If DOOM's surname is of South African origion it would more than likely be pronounced Doo-Mee-leh. The name is also similar to the zulu word for hello, Dumela.
of course DOOMulay is an Anglicized pronunciation/spelling... Wathiik 07:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Yep, agreed, but due to him having grown up in the US that is probably how he himself pronounces his name.
- Yeah, he says "Doo-muh-lay" in the song El Chupa Nibre by DangerDoom on the album The Moust & The Mask, and then again on El Chupa Nibre Remix by DangerDoom on the album Occult Hymn EP. It's doom-uh-lay. -The Hams 21:26, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- But on countless other songs, he pronunces it the American way. -Gangstadane 17:17, 17 June 2006 (GMT)
- 'doo-muh-lay' is the 'American' pronunciation. doo-mee-leh is the pronunciation of origin.
[edit] KMD
KMD involved three members: Subroc, Zev Luv X, and MC Onyx. Also, the anagram was recorded as "either/or" the two abbreviations, but in fact the meaning was changed at a certain point. I updated both items.
(Asher14 22:28, 4 March 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Discography
We can't talk about doom's commercial opportunities without mentioning his appearance on De La Soul's 2004 release. I added it.
We should also consider breaking this article into sections like Biography, Discography, Trivia, etc., like other artist pages are--Asher14 22:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
He's produced several tracks on the new Ghostface Killah album "Fishscale"
[edit] Nastrodoomus
Shouldn't the Nastrodoomus albums be removed since they were unofficial bootlegs? Just asking.
re: Well, if it is related to the topic, wouldn't it be better to keep it, but mention that it is unofficial? People interested in the topic can wonder what the deal is with the Nastrodoomus albums, informing them about it seems like useful for the article.--Dmtr iii 17:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Nastradoomus was not made by MF DOOM or released by any of the record labels he's associated with. It was made by another DJ using Nas acappellas and MF DOOM instrumentals and released, if I remember correctly, by hiphopsite.com. To add Nastradoomus to the MF DOOM discography would be an invitation to add any MF DOOM bootleg, mix, or mash-up to the list - and there are many. It should not be on the discography.
IIRC Nastradoomus wasn't even made by one guy, it was by the hiphopsite.com community as a whole. aubrey 20:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] MF Meaning
"("MF" may stand for "metal face", or is otherwise widely accepted as standing for "Mad Flow") (MF Grimm/GM Grimm does not have a metal face)"
This information is incorrect. The MF in MF DOOM stands for Metal Face, as according to this interview: http://www.stonesthrow.com/madvillain/doom-metalsatin.html
Mad Flows is MF Grimm.
- Is it common knowledge that he is making a play on the abbreviation for mofo? --Mikeazorin 01:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've always been partial to "mofo" (to put it politely) myself, and I think that it is one of the "unofficial" definitions, but the "official" definition is "Metal Face" --DestradoZero 08:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- It isn't Mother Fucker (hey, it's an encyclopedia). It's Metal Face. That's the only real definition. That's what it was created as and how it was intended. -The Hams 21:27, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
He also uses it as Metal Fingers on the Special Herbs collections. aubrey 20:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, he also uses Metal Fingers on the Ghostface Killah album Fishscale.
[edit] 3rd Base's Cactus Album
The Cactus Album wasn't released on Elektra, but rather on Def Jam.
- if you see something wrong with this or any article, you should just go ahead and change it instead of writing about it on the talk page.
- sounds like a job for me. yeah, The Gas Face wasn't on elektra. Wathiik 20:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
here's the link in case y'all wanna check: http://www.discogs.com/release/173103 Wathiik 20:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Title
Wouldn't it be more useful to have this article at MF Doom, under Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names)? He seems to be referred to as Doom (2.2 million google hits) much more often than Dumile (22,000 hits). Flowerparty☀ 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
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- No, I say Daniel Dumile, because he has many, many aliases (King Gheedora, King Ghidra, Zev Love X, Madvillain, Viktor Vaughn, the Supervillain, DOOM, MF DOOM, DangerDoom, and I'm probably missing a few) -The Hams 21:28, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. He has so many aliases, "MF Doom" and all of his other names can just redirect here. MrBlondNYC 15:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] mask
Should it be mentioned that MF DOOM's mask is more or less the same mask that Russell Crowe wears in Gladiator? and that it looks nothing like the mask that Dr. Doom wears? and i think he started wearing the mask before Gladiator came out? djumbrosia 16:04, 3 June 2006
- That seems like some good info to know. Go ahead and add it, dude. -The Hams 21:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
- it is the mask from 'Gladiator'. 'helmet of Maximus' is the actual name for the style. DOOM did, however, wear a Dr. Doom style mask before his current one. -Eq
[edit] MF DOOM vs DangerDoom
Does anyone know if DangerDoom is a seperate character than MF DOOM or if DangerDoom is just the name of the collaborative work itself?
- Dangerdoom is the name of the "team" of MF Doom and DJ Danger Mouse - similar to how MF Doom and Madlib go by the name Madvillain when they work together. SubSeven 00:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Birthday
What is the source for the January 6th, 1971 birthday which is used in this article? I believe the year is correct but not the date.
[edit] spelling in KMD
- is it properly Zev Luv X or Zev Love X? or both? does it alternate? should we make it standard thruout the article? W guice 15:25, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- It alternates, but it is more commonly spelled with Love. I'll fix it now. --Mikeazorin 02:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
