User talk:Zyxw

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1 Style guidlines
2 US-airport templates
3 US Airports
4 Palm Beach International Airport
5 Your popups modifications
6 coor dms2
7 TfD nomination of Template:Coor dms2
8 Brisbane Airport
9 Airports in Australia table
10 categories
11 Robertson Field
12 Airports infobox
13 Trivandrum International Airport
14 Updating AAI links
15 Nevada airports
16 Afd for airline destinations

[edit] Style guidlines

You've had a busy couple of days! Please read the style guides cited above – some of your edits have been contrary to established practice. Also, please put something in the "Edit summary" box when saving a change. Thanks for your contributions, and welcome to Wikipedia. -- Kbh3rd 01:38, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

I gather you are referring to the Erik Lindbergh article. My main purpose in editing that was to add links for the two airports used in his transatlantic flight. While I was in there I mistakenly thought the References entry was actually under External Links and formatted it as such. Thanks for correcting it for me. Zyxw 10:18, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] US-airport templates

Good work on the new Template:US-airport variations. However, I've been wondering if it was possible to use wiki templates to make the second parameter be optional. If the second parameter is blank, then the ICAO code would be autogenerated by pre-pending "K", otherwise if it is specified then it'll just be used? This page indicates that "default" values for empty parameters can be specified when substituting: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template#Parameters (maybe something like {{2|K{{1}}} )? If that syntax is good then that would eliminate the need to have a US-airport2 template at all! -- Bovineone 22:51, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I created Template:US-airport2 mainly for the Alaska and Hawaii airports where the ICAO codes don't start with K. I did look into methods of using optional parameters, but just haven't had enough time experiment with it. It's on my to-do list, unless someone else does it first. Zyxw 11:27, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] US Airports

I see you've been as busy with the US ones as I have with the Canadian ones. Couple of things, you might want to make redirects based on the IATA/ICAO codes. I've been doing them but I'm not really sure if it's necessary. Also for the runways, standard practice is to include the leading zero (as in 03/21) and it's always spoken that way on the radio. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 11:12, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Adding redirects for the IATA/ICAO codes (or updating existing disambig pages) is on my to-do list, sometime after I finish creating a set of airport lists by U.S. state (one page for each). Thanks for the info on runways, I'll keep it in mind for my future updates. Zyxw 11:33, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Hey, I don't think that we need to redirect or have a link by the code to the airport, since in the lists you can simply link directly to the airport - and the only disambiguation, at least with the US Airports, would be with western radio stations or random acronyms. I'm working on the USA Airport List-ICAO right now as well, so if you want to split up the work as far as getting all the airports into the ICAO-list as well, that's fine with me, as I noticed you overwrote a couple of airports I put up. It also seems we do use different formatting styles - I'm going to continue to use mine on the USA page though as I think the bold helps make the codes more readable, though I can take the parentheses out if you want to put up the IATA codes in as well. Also, in the Caribbean, some of the airports (Bridgetown City, Roseau) are actually heliports with ICAO codes. SportingFlyer 03:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palm Beach International Airport

I'm watching this for User:PRueda29. He's on a Wikibreak right now so are you a good or a bad guy (good I hope)? I'm just watching his watchlist 'till he gets back. If you're good (which I surmise from your contribs) then check his user or my talk page to add some pages to your watchlist to help out in his absence. Thanks, ;-) --hydnjo talk 03:45, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Your popups modifications

Hi, I thought I'd let you know that I've merged most (all?) of your changes to my popups script into the main branch, with options to control them. Thanks for making those changes! Lupin|talk|popups 22:37, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. This was a surprise because I made the changes for my own use, but I'm glad you found them and felt some were worth adding to the main branch. I also appreciate the acknowledgment here and on your popups page. As I recall, I made three basic changes:

Display embedded templates in the previews. My reason for this was to see the Airport codes template found in the first paragraph of many airport articles (i.e. Martha's Vineyard Airport). My preference would have been to expand the templates within the preview, but this was a usable and faster workaround for my purposes.
Added additional infobox templates to killBoxTemplates so they are not displayed in the preview. Although I wanted to see the shorter templates, I didn't need the multi-line infobox templates which often appear before the actual text of an article. Note: I added a regex for frames (*frame ... *end frame), but haven't had time get it working properly (for an example, preview American Airlines or Linden Airport with popupKillTemplates turned off).
Altered the preview to show all text instead of just one paragraph. However, it should still end at the user values set for popupMaxPreviewSentences or popupMaxPreviewCharacters. This is handy for articles starting with short paragraphs, but is even more helpful when the article has multi-line templates that are displayed in the preview.

Zyxw 07:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for that explanation. I think I've fixed the box templates function in User:Lupin/popupsdev.js. Lupin|talk|popups 15:12, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] coor dms2

I noticed you created {{coor dms2}} and have started to migrate the airport infobx to using it - any reason why? I cannot see any visual problem when using {{coor dms}} in the infobox. Additionally this template uses an embedded template - something frowned upon for performance reasons. Thanks/wangi 11:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Can you stop with the coor dms2 for a while as they don't work as well as the original. Here's the map as provided for Castlegar Airport under coor dms and this is the map from coor dms2. The picture in the second is clearer but where's the airport. By the time you zoom in it's still fuzzy. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Many of the airport infoboxes currently use the "coor dms" template to display the coordinates with a link to the "map sources" page. The problem with "coor dms" when used in the airport infobox is that some browsers wrap the text onto a second line creating something which looks like this:

35°41′21″N, 51°

18′49″E

The point of creating "coor dms2" was to have it wrap in a more logical point, between the latitude and longitude:

35° 41′ 21″ N

51° 18′ 49″ E

I also added spaces between the degrees, minutes and seconds to make it easier to read. The only difference between "coor dms" and "coor dms2" is how the text is displayed. Both templates should generate the same URL for the Map Sources page, assuming they are given the same coordinates. The reason for the change in the Castlegar Airport page is because besides changing from "coor dms" to "coor dms2", I also added "type:airport":

original:

49°17′47″N, 117°37′57″W

this causes the map sources page to use a scale of approx. 1 : 300,000

my edit:

Template:Coor dms2

this causes the map sources page to use a scale of approx. 1 : 30,000

Zyxw 14:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, could you give an example of this happening? I tried looking at Louisville International Airport before your change since it was the first you changed but It looked all right to me. With the existing coor dms template the only place the browser should be breaking the line is at the space between the E/W and N/S, and certainly that's what's happening here for me. Actually I've now just tested this with IE (I normally use Firefox) and it is showing the way you describe. However, new templates aren't really the way to solve a browser bug/issue. Let me think about this one... Thanks/wangi 14:42, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I've just edited coor dms2[1] to make use of the nowrap CSS property - this now displays properly on IE and I think this version should be used in the standard {{coor dms}}. What do you think? Thanks/wangi 14:57, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I like the nowrap approach, but with the version of Template:Coor dms2 as you have it, there is still the issue of the little arrow symbol that appears with external links not displaying properly when the text wraps to a second line (for an example, see the airport infobox at Template talk:Coor dms2). I would suggest one of the following solutions: (1) apply nowrap to the entire text that is displayed, forcing the latitude and longitude to be displayed on a single line, or (2) allow the latitude and longitude to be displayed on separate lines but remove the arrow symbol by using class=plainlinksneverexpand as I had done in my version of "coor dms2" [2] Zyxw 18:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

See Template talk:Coor dms#Line wrapping. Thanks/wangi 14:28, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

It's something strange with Castlegar Airport. If you use "Coor dms2" and remove the "type:airport" it still give the high altitude view as opposed to using "type:airport" and "coor dms". However, it makes no difference to London Heathrow Airport. I do know that the monitor also can make a difference to how things are viewed. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:01, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll have to take a closer look at this when I have some more time. Zyxw 18:21, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I've moved out to work and am now editing from there. Using the same browser as at home and a smaller monitor there is now no difference between either "Coor dms2" or "coor dms". It's not breaking over two lines like the template shows and there are no spaces between degrees, minutes and seconds. The little arrow is right over and blocking the W. Just tried a different browser and it's the same. Also I just noticed that Castlegar is coming in at the right height. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Coor dms2

Template:Coor dms2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Coor dms2. Thank you. wangi 10:42, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brisbane Airport

Actually, you haven't fixed what I was trying to fix, at all. I wanted "Brisbane" to link to "Brisbane", "Queensland" to link to "Queensland", and "Australia" to link to "Australia", the way things used to be, before the info box format was changed, and the way it should be. I did not want "Brisbane, Queensland, Australia" to link to "Brisbane", which is how you have left it. So the problem remains, unresolved. Figaro 15:54, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I did notice that you were attempting to set up separate links in that Brisbane Airport article, but the current version of Template:Airport_infobox uses the entire text assigned to "closest town" as a link to a single article. Therefore I thought the next best solution was to create a redirect page named Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. If you don't care for that solution, please feel free to revert my edit. Better yet, post a suggestion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Airports/infobox requesting that the template not automatically link the "closest town" text, thereby allowing you to place the links yourself. Zyxw 06:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Airports in Australia table

Hi I know that it takes a fair amount of effort to convert pages to tables. I just wanted to acknowledge it looks much better :-) Regards--A Y Arktos 07:32, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] categories

Hi Zyxw. FYI, misnamed categories like Category:Airports in Democratic Republic of the Congo are eligible for speedy deletion and speedy renaming. Even though you've already nominated it for the slow way, you can still have it speedied. ×Meegs 11:51, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Robertson Field

I was wondering where you got your information to change the operator of Robertson Field to Tomasso Brothers Inc. They own the land that the airport is on but do not partake in the day to day operations of the airport. Interstate Aviation handles all operations as well as the flight school there. Jeb8828 11:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The fields in the airport infobox for U.S. airports are usually based on data published by the FAA. Although the box is labelled "operator", it is usually the name of the owner, which FAA records for Robertson Field show as "Tomasso Brothers Inc." (see references link in article). However, since the owner and operator are different here, please feel free to change it back to "Interstate Aviation". Zyxw 11:31, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Do you think that it makes more sense to have Interstate Aviation as the operator then? You definitely have more experience with the airport articles than I do so I'll let you decide which you feel shold be there. I just wanted to make sure you knew about it. Jeb8828 11:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Since the article itself mentions the names of both the owner and the operator, I think it is fine to switch the infobox back to the operator name. In fact, I just made the edit while typing this response. Zyxw 11:45, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Airports infobox

I noticed that you were adding stuff like runway width, date opened and distance from to the infobox. None of that information actually appears to the reader. I think if you want that stuff included you should bring it up for discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/infobox. There is some previous discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports/infobox/archive2 under the "Ideas", "Suggested changes" and "Proposed Changes". Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 20:52, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I once saw an airport infobox where someone included fields for the runway width, which I thought it was a good idea. Since templates like the airport infobox ignore parameters they don't know about, it doesn't hurt anything for me to include fields which infobox doesn't currently display. If it is ever decided to display that information in the infobox, then the articles I have edited won't need to be updated again. Zyxw 21:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivandrum International Airport

HI, I noticed that you moved the contents from Trivandrum International Airport to Thiruvananthapuram International Airport, and added a redirect in the former. But, the airport name hasnt changed. It is still called as Trivandrum Airport. The city name is officially changed to Thiruvananthapuram in 1991. But the airport name is not changed. The code is still TRV and the name is Trivandrum International Airport itself.
See the official site of Airport Authority of India, which controls the airport : AAI official site.

So I request you to move the contents from Thiruvananthapuram International Airport to [3], and add a redirect in the former.

Thanks in advance. Cheers, -- Rajith Mohan ^{(Talk to me...)} :-) 12:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

The page has been moved back to Trivandrum International Airport and the article updated to show the correct name, with a reference to that AAI link. Thanks for the information. Zyxw 13:26, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updating AAI links

Great work on updating the airport links on the airport list. Good job - ^{PlaneMad|YakYak} 12:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. (For anyone else reading this, PlaneMad is referring to List of airports in India.) - Zyxw 08:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nevada airports

Thanks for expanding the stubs I've been creating. I was planning on doing some of this, but there is so much I have been trying to do I keep falling further behind. I just spent a few hours finding and adding some additional airports to the Nevada list. - Vegaswikian 03:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. - Zyxw 04:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

[edit] Afd for airline destinations

Someone renominated airline destinations for afd. Since you voted keep last time, I thought you might be interested. DB (talk) 20:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I added my vote to keep it. - Zyxw 12:48, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

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